Die Macher
Média Bayesiana: 7.4952
Classificação Média: 7.7188
Estatísticas para Die Macher
Total de utilizadores: 42
Votos totais: 16 (38.1%)
Total owners: 16 (38.1%)
Total wishlisters: 13 (31%)
Estatísticas do abreojogo.com
Utilizadores do BGG: 252
Utilizadores com colecções: 203 (80.6%)
Utilizadores com classificações: 110 (43.7%)
Utilizadores com wishlists: 129 (51.2%)
Total de jogos possuídos: 13427
Jogos distintos: 3804 (28.3%)
Jogos classificados: 6357
Jogos distintos: 1705 (26.8%)
Classificação média: 6.899
Total de jogos desejados: 4333
Jogos distintos: 2223 (51.3%)
| Utilizador | Nota | Estado | Comentários |
|---|---|---|---|
| Rui Conde | 9.5 | Colecção | Really, really want to try this one, and I could even bought it cause the theme is so interesting, how to win at Politics... Already played it, and now I want more, wonderful game, everything makes sence, even the small things. It's a Game I will never say no, it takes a little to play (4h30 the only time I played it) but the time flyes and you don't feel it. A Must Play Game. I think that with more plays my Rating will go up. |
| hugocarvalho | 9.0 | ||
| Gonçalo Moura | 9.0 | ||
| Cacá | 9.0 | ||
| newrev | 9.0 | Colecção | My wife's favourite game. It´s a huge complex heavy game, a gamers game. This game have so many ways to achieve victory. The long version is better than the five round variant, you only know the last round in the fifth end region and that adds a major surprise factor. It's a bit difficult to teach, but not very hard to play after master the rules. My top hot 10 for now. I want to play it all the time. It's a little difficult to find players, because it plays for 4 hours long. Many say that don't play well with 3 players, but i like it a lot. It becomes a bit out of balance during the coalitions, because when that appends one player must run the elections alone. Another reason for the 3 players game must go all the way, 7 elections. But with 3 players with some experience it's possible end that game in less then 3, 30' hours. And the time as passed without you can notice. 15/03/08 - Another excellent session. Great game, one of the best. In the end of 4 coalitions and 4 hours of game, a difference of only 4 points was between the 3 first players. |
| Oblivion | 9.0 | Colecção | |
| Sgrovi | 8.0 | Wishlist(3) | |
| Renard | 8.0 | ||
| haroldun | 8.0 | ||
| Dagoma | 8.0 | ||
| BrainStorm | 7.0 | Colecção | |
| hmocc | 6.0 | Played Moskito 2nd Edition (the one with the best graphic design) today. It's a good game but I don't see myself playing it too often. Also it has the ability of making me very disappointed with some results that happen due to chance. Ther's only so much in this game you can control and that much isn't much. | |
| Starita | 6.0 | ||
| Tereso | 6.0 | ||
| Tiago | 6.0 | Drags for too long for what is essentially repetitive play. | |
| haze | 6.0 | ||
| suntzu | - | Wishlist(2) Procura-se | |
| Hélio | - | Colecção | |
| costa | - | Wishlist(2) | Needs more play. |
| ricmadeira | - | Highly cool, but a bit on the heavy side, which makes most players take too long to decide on even the smallest of actions and drags the game a bit. | |
| hoyas79 | - | Wishlist(4) | |
| Spirou | - | Colecção | |
| Drzodiacus | - | Colecção | |
| pedrolisboa | - | Colecção | Doctor! Doctor! My brain hurts... |
| pitris | - | Colecção | Just two incomplete plays. Not enough to give it a fair rating. |
| Mallgur | - | Wishlist(1) | |
| musashi | - | Wishlist(1) | |
| MGBM | - | Colecção | |
| Bernardo | - | Wishlist(2) | |
| HotRod | - | Wishlist(3) | |
| Firepigeon | - | Wishlist(4) | |
| Zuvizavanovi | - | Procura-se | |
| flip | - | Wishlist(2) | |
| vch | - | Colecção | |
| soledade | - | Colecção | Played it for the first time with 5 gamers. I like this game a lot. It has a unique feeling. I ended up ok although I usually can't play it properly. I guess I had lucky! Most of the time polls are a bit frustrating because we often buy innocuous ones. That's a major complaint about the game due to its randomness but I still think that despite all of that Die Macher is a different game that feels differently and makes the difference especially when compared to new boardgames which, most of them, seem the same. I like the way everything is combined. The difficulty in choosing the right issue to be for or against, a struggle against chaos and randomness. I believe that if a player doesn't stick too much on his luck and manages to do well or at least try to do well in major elections, he is able to win the game. Opinion polls may destroy a strategy on the short run but I really am convinced that that is not possible if polls are controlled in the long run, saying 2 elections ahead. If players can get 30 votes in a long term election probably is a good idea to grab those 30 votes before a poll goes wrong. Plus, good (forced or not) coalitions can make a difference in the national board which can be important. Getting media control is also an excellent way to get points from the national board and also to buy cheap polls - I guess that if a player has media control over a region the other players often tend to let him grab the poll. 1. Polls may be bought. If a player wants that poll if he thinks that is a critical region/election he may buy the poll or even try to control it using the media. This is a decision made by the player. The key word here is decision. If, for some reason, the player can't buy that poll he should have prepared himself better for that situation by: a) saving the money needed as he thought on that region as a key election. b) preparing himself for the case that he can't get the poll by playing ahead making some damage control 2. Issue cards are random as in all games that play with cards. In Die Macher there are always 4 elections in dispute and with those 4 elections, 10 issue cards are open. Players have the possibility of choosing from 6 cards to play as a party campaign so, I guess it's not just about luck, it often is about trying to get everything. It's better to control the elections on the long term because those regions only have a single card showing so, no more complaints about luck on the cards because, although they can make things easier they are not impossible to control especially in future (with a single or two cards showing) elections. 3. Dice. Well, there's nothing to do with dice. Sometimes they work for, sometimes they work against. It's just how they work. But they work like that in all games with dice and, in my opinion, they are not that relevant. I believe in odds and, although a player can have luck (or lack of it) for all over the game, that's against the odds so it's more likely to have players with luck and with no luck during the game. Die Macher is an euro game that is all about making the right decisions and try to cut losses where possible. There's no way a player with lack of strategy and well playing can win this game. This is definitely one of the games of my life. |
| shiva_skunk | - | Colecção | What? 5 hours of German politics? Is this a joke right?? Not a game for everyone, but I believe a gamers experience isn't complete without playing this monster. Great theme! The mechanics of the game couldn't be more appropriated. A rocky 10!! |
| nbs | - | Colecção | Theme. Mechanics. 10 ! I just don't like the power of some random polls ! Still one of the best game ideas ever ! |
| DalimThor | - | Colecção | Great game a big brain burner.. just wish it wasnt so hard to find players for this |
| Chartours | - | Wishlist(2) | |
| Asur | - | + Interesting, complex, classic deep game. - The randomness brought by the cards can be frustrating. | |
| rafa_str | - | Wishlist(3) | |
| tmgd | - | Colecção |
